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I wanted to make some crawlers that I wrote in ruby to run faster. Thought of running it using hadoop, and just started trying out using Hadoop Streaming for the purpose, and thought of sharing a short how-to on it since there might be others looking for it.
Hadoop Streaming facilitates users to write the map and reduce code in any language and run it on a Hadoop grid easily.
I assume that you have installed Hadoop and it is already running the sample java programs that ship with the package well. If not take a look into the official quickstart tutorial. This would also tell you how to use the hdfs commands to copy the input files to hdfs, reading the output, etc.
All you need to understand to write an hadoop streaming program is:
- A mapper always reads records and outputs key-value pairs. The record reader might be anything, but the default record reader splits by lines.
Your Mapper should read each record and output a key value pair. You may choose to use any delimiter to separate the key. But Hadoop by default uses tabspace as the delimiter. If it makes sense for you, you could use the same. - A reducer always gets key value pairs as input and gives key value pairs as output.
- While using Hadoop Streaming, you need to write your mapper such that it reads records from STDIN and outputs the key-value pairs to STDOUT, and reducer such that it reads key-value pairs from STDIN and outputs key-value pairs to STDOUT.
- If you plan to use a combiner, it again would do just like your reducer.
Lets get our hands wet.
mapper.rb
#!/usr/bin/env ruby
wordcount = Hash.new
STDIN.each_line do |line|
line.split.each do |word|
wordcount[word] = wordcount[word].to_i+1
end
endwordcount.each_pair do |word,count|
puts “#{word}t#{count}”
end
reducer.rb
#!/usr/bin/env ruby
wordcount = Hash.new
STDIN.each_line do |line|
keyval = line.split(”t”)
wordcount[keyval[0]] = wordcount[keyval[0]].to_i+keyval[1].to_i
endwordcount.each_pair do |word,count|
puts “#{word}t#{count}”
end
Now that you have a mapper and reducer, just start running your job like below.
$HADOOP_HOME/bin/hadoop \
jar $HADOOP_HOME/contrib/streaming/hadoop-0.16.4-streaming.jar \
-mapper mapper.rb \
-reducer reducer.rb \
-input input/* \
-output wc-output \
-file $PATH_TO_YOUR_FOLDER/mapper.rb \
-file $PATH_TO_YOUR_FOLDER/reducer.rb
I had set $HADOOP_HOME to the root of the extracted hadoop package, and $PATH_TO_YOUR_FOLDER is where you have the mapper.rb and reducer.rb files. In the above example, I had just mentioned the mapper and reducer file names without giving the complete path to the files, and supplied the complete path using -file options. Here, the -file option packs the file - supplied to it as argument - in the job jar file that it sends to all nodes in the grid.If the files preexisted in the grid at a particular path, you could just have specified the full path to the -mapper and -reducer options itself. But it makes no harm using the -file option unless the files are big and the job jar file size would become unnecessarily huge.
Happy Rubying and Hadooping! 
This might be a old news for some. But I found it interesting and surprising. Microsoft trying to comply with web standards suggests that the web is going to be a cleaner place sometime very soon.
http://www.vladimirpetkovic.com/blog/ie-8-passes-the-acid-2-test/
It is exciting to see how people come up with innovative ideas. John Breen had come up with this site seeing his son study for SAT. When a visitor answer a vocabulary question correctly, 20 grains(and growing ;)) of rice is being donated to hungry people across the world through UNO.
How? At each page an ad is being displayed at the bottom, and the money that comes through these ads go for the cause.
One highlight is that the questions are adaptive(toughness varies based on how well you answer), which could be very helpful for those who prepare for GRE.
Day two had 4 tracks - Fedora, KDE, OpenOffice, Indic Linux. I was wondering why they had put all non-technical tracks together on one day. Only KDE had technical talks(about Qt4), and I was there.
The KDE track started with a talk on “The Pillars of KDE 4″ and “How to be a part of the gang”, which I skipped, and started attending from the talk on “KDE4 development setup” by Pradeepto. Pradeepto’s talk explained how to get KDE4 working, and went on to explain how to checkout the svn of KDE4 and start compiling and testing it. There were questions on the size of the checkout, bandwidth issues, etc. Someone in the audience crowd suggested that there could be some way to make the repo available as ISOs, which can be distributed in events. The slides are available here
Kevin Ottens talked about Qt/KDE concepts and Frameworks. It was something that covered the basic concepts of Qt, which every person starting with Qt development should know. This talk should have made the learning curve of many budding Qt developers smoother. The examples he chose were very apt to illustrate the concepts. I would savor the talk for long time. He explained when to use the ‘K’ classes and when to use the ‘Q’ classes, which I think many Qt developers learn only after making mistakes. He also introduced the audience MVC based development with Qt4. The slides of this talk are available here
One interesting talk was that of Girish, which was about Styling Qt4 with style sheets. When I used Qt 3.4, I had to include all styling information in the Qt code while instantiating each object. But with the facility to include style sheets in Qt4, this styling information can be kept aside from the functional code, which is a good practice that Trolltech has adapted from the web technologies. Lot of CSS3 like features are available in the Qt Style sheets, and it also provides cascading as in CSS. Moreover the syntax is very similar to CSS. Slides available here
Piyush Verma, a GSoCer 2007, who extended KDevelop for Python syntax highlighting support gave a talk on “Kdevelop3/4: Beyond C++.. extending the Language Base”, presented a very good content. But he could have made the presentation more encouraging for new contributors to come up than bore people away by speaking in a “I know you know we both know” tone. The slides are available here
The day was satisfying with good talks on Qt (especially Qt4 and its new features).
There were four parallel tracks going on for the First Project Day, viz., Debian/Ubuntu, Mozilla, GNOME and OpenSolaris.
I attended most sessions of Mozilla and one session in Debian/Ubuntu.
The first talk was on Extensibility of Mozilla by Myk. Myk talked about various addons for Mozilla, what they do, and an overview of how it was implemented(whenever the addon was created by him). Some of the new useful addons that I adopted after the talk was Alexa Sparky. Most others were that I already use. The slides are available somewhere in http://people.mozilla.or/~myk/. I too am looking for the exact URL. Please let me know if you have it.
Anant gave a nice, well organized talk on XPConnect. He gave a step by step introduction to get the audience started with a skeleton code generator, and went on to show code snippets to show off the ease of using XPConnect. Slides available here
Next was a talk on writing applications with the Mozilla Framework. It was an awesome talk where Prasad illustrated step by stp on how to build an application using XUL. But it would have been even better if he had chosen the example such that it illustrates how to use both XPCOM and XUL. One new thing that i learnt was that even the applications that are built with the Mozilla Framework have the addon widget, and are extensible. Slides are avaialble here
The last pre-lunch session was regarding Evangelizing for Firefox. Mary showed some interesting pics on how people love firefox, and then introduced Spread Firefox initiative and the events that happen on it to the audience.
Had lunch with a bunch of #linux-india IRC buddies.
Post-lunch, I went to the Debian/Ubuntu track to attend the Debian/Ubuntu package building and maintenance workshop by Baishu and Kartik. Though the content was very good, some audience who were new to packaging wouldn’t have probably understood much of it. It is tough to cater to the needs of everyone, but still the workshop could have been more of a step by step tutorial. The slides are available here
When the workshop on Debian/Ubuntu was over, I dropped back into the Mozilla track, and a couple of short sessions on localization were going on. These talks were by eminent personalities of the Mozilla Community. But just that I wasn’t interested in the topic, I didn’t follow the talks closely. From how much ever I listened to the talks, I was able to get a grasp on how localization happens in the Mozilla Community, and how Firefox3 is going to support localization.
The day ended with a demo of Firefox’s accessibility by Krishnakanth Mane. It was amazing to see that Hindi accessibility works so well. Krishnakanth requested the audience to take necessary initiatives to make their local languages accessible. If any news readers or people good at pronounciation and phonetics are interested in contributing to their own language’s accessibility, please contact krmane at gmail dot com.
FOSS.IN/2007 started off with the usual buzz. At 8:20, when I reached the venue hoping to get registration done without facing all the hassles of standing in a long queue, I was happy to find very less people around. There would have been around 15-20 people altogether. There was a notice put up in front of the registration counter, which apologised for the delay in registration by an hour the previous day.
Myself and tuxmaniac were standing to the front of the queue, and were hoping that the registration desk will open in time as no such regret notice was put up, and considered the FOSS.IN organisers to be nice enough to be concerned about the participants’ time. 8:45.. still waiting in queue, counters not opened… queue getting bigger.. 9:00 queue getting much bigger..
9:15.. some people taking photos and videos of the big queue(probably media people??).. 9:20 the counters open and queue starts moving. What is the aim of making people come early and wait in long queues? God knows. Though they claim that there was a powercut, I don’t believe that there is no backup power supply to run two computers in a place that has enough backup to run projectors and Air conditions and keeping 4 auditoriums going incase of powercut.
Victor Tsaran, the Yahoo! Accessibility Guru, gave a talk on accessibility in web applications. The public version of the talk was on 23rd, while we had an internal session on 21st of this month. After attending his talk and interacting with him for sometime, I realised how big a *sin* (not just a bad coding practice or mistake) it is to write a HTML page without heading tags, and using CSS to style the headings instead. Though for the visually blessed us, CSS makes it look good, for the visually impaired, it doesnt make any sense as the screen readers just parse the DOM and read out according to the semantic information available in it. A page without semantic markup makes it difficult for the people who use screen readers to comprehend, and indirectly deprives them of some information. Headings really matter for them even in terms of traversing a page. Similarly are the alt attributes and any other semantic information.
I would take caution not to design a web page (however unimportant it is) without semantic meaning in it hereafter. Close your eyes and use a screen reader to read your webpage before hosting it. I wouldn’t repeat the sin of depriving the people who depend on accessibility features from any information that I put on the web. Hope you too would take the extra effort to make whatever you create to be accessible to screen readers.
I had recorded the internal version of Victor’s talk and made it available internally(Yahoos can take it from my produce page. Filename Tsaran.mp3. For now, everyone can take a look at this video.
PS: I just realised by the time I finished writing this post, that I didn’t yet check the accessibility of this wordpress template that I’m using. Gotta do it ASAP.
Book Jan 22 - 25 for Kurukshetra and get ready to battle!
Kurukshetra is the Annual Techno Management fest of Anna University,Chennai. It is one of the finest Tech Fests in the country which is Conducted on an unprecedented scale,and includes a broad spectrum of activities that spans over all disciplines of engineering and management.It is also one of highest budgeted college tech fest in the country whose budget runs over a few millions and offers a total prize money of 10 lakhs to the smartest and brightest engineers and managers.
For more information visit http://kurukshetra.org.in
Yesterday, in #linux-India IRC channel, one n00b had come in somehow figuring out how to use IRC. He wanted to do blackhat hacking(cracking), and he insisted on helping him to break into one of his senior’s comp. As usual after some flames, ppl started trying to help him understand ethics, the real meaning of hacking, difference between hacking and cracking, etc. This n00b still continued to insist on his goal to break into his senior’s system, and take a look at the treatment he got. It was real fun for all of us out there.
Below is an abridged version of the log.
Conversation with #linux-india at Monday 10 September 2007 12:38:14 PM IST on tuxplorer@irc.freenode.net (irc)
(01:12:04 IST) MegaByte: hello all
(01:12:08 IST) MegaByte: can wine run IE ?
(01:12:23 IST) codeshepherd: MegaByte: check out ie4linux
(01:12:33 IST) codeshepherd: it’s built on top of wine
(01:13:25 IST) codeshepherd: responsible disclosure !!! I found some XSS problems in NUS website.. sent them a mail.. and now a chinease females calls me up 
(01:13:34 IST) codeshepherd: female*
(01:16:11 IST) codeshepherd: annauniv website has no forms !!!
(01:20:09 IST) codeshepherd: haha… IITM website has XSS problems
(01:20:59 IST) MegaByte: codeshepherd, are you a hacker
(01:21:01 IST) MegaByte: ?
(01:21:17 IST) MegaByte: codeshepherd, can you teach me how to hack
(01:21:28 IST) MegaByte: i am good with math so i can learn
(01:21:29 IST) codeshepherd: ya, one of the pathetic failed ones.. MegaByte
(01:21:44 IST) ***cydork wonders if codeshepherd just found out about the xss cheat sheet..
(01:22:31 IST) codeshepherd: cydork, nah.. I am a little bit advanced.. I got a greasemonkey script that automates XSS scanning to some extent..
(01:23:25 IST) codeshepherd: prathapnirmal: ping
(01:23:31 IST) cydork: codeshepherd: XSS Greasemonkey assistant ?
(01:23:41 IST) g0pz left the room (quit: Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)).
(01:24:26 IST) codeshepherd: cydork I got the one from whiteacid labs.. and little bit customized ..
(01:24:37 IST) codeshepherd: it’s called XSS assistant
(01:26:36 IST) cydork: codeshepherd: what did you customize?
(01:26:57 IST) pradeepto: re
(01:26:58 IST) codeshepherd: added some sql injection stuff to it.. nothing great
(01:29:03 IST) codeshepherd: cydork if you are interested join #webappsec
(01:30:48 IST) cydork: codeshepherd: hmm sure.
(01:31:00 IST) MegaByte: can you guys tell me how to hack
(01:31:05 IST) MegaByte: i want to learn it
(01:31:09 IST) MegaByte: i am new to linux
(01:31:10 IST) ***f3ew hands MegaByte an axe
(01:31:24 IST) f3ew: There’s a hacker HOWTO online
(01:31:52 IST) pradeepto: Of course, there are certifications for hacker courses.
(01:31:59 IST) pradeepto: 3 levels even
(01:32:12 IST) pradeepto: Level 1 - Beginner Hacker.
(01:32:29 IST) pradeepto: Level 2 - Expert Hacker
(01:32:56 IST) pradeepto: Level 3 - 3L33t Hacker a.k.a Master Jedi
(01:33:01 IST) codeshepherd: MegaByte: buy some 0days from me..
(01:33:03 IST) MegaByte: from where i can get more information about these courses
(01:33:18 IST) MegaByte: do they teach how to hack ?
(01:33:30 IST) MegaByte: is it legel
(01:33:38 IST) pradeepto: sure they do, ofcourse it legal
(01:34:12 IST) pradeepto: I went there. I barely could pass the level 3 course. It took me 2 attempts. :/
(01:34:21 IST) codeshepherd: MegaByte: what do you do ?
(01:34:33 IST) MegaByte: i am a student
(01:34:44 IST) codeshepherd: where and what do you study ?
(01:34:47 IST) MegaByte: doing my engg from UPTECH
(01:35:08 IST) MegaByte: engg in CS
(01:35:18 IST) codeshepherd: good start man..
(01:35:25 IST) barkha: UPTECH? APTECH ka bhai?
(01:35:52 IST) codeshepherd: go to your computer lab today… install linux on all machines.. MegaByte
(01:36:08 IST) codeshepherd: once you are done.. come back and report to us.. well will tell you what to do next
(01:36:31 IST) MegaByte: i can not install linux on all machines
(01:36:41 IST) MegaByte: there is one senior of mine who do that
(01:37:11 IST) pradeepto: I really think doing those course will help.
(01:38:08 IST) MegaByte: pradeepto, from where i can get more information about the courses
(01:38:57 IST) codeshepherd: there is one silent guy in this channel.. I guess he is undercover.. working for the secret services.. his nick is prathapnirmal
(01:40:04 IST) MegaByte: all of you are hackers ?
(01:40:58 IST) barkha: MegaByte: some of us are newbies, some experienced hackers
(01:42:36 IST) MegaByte: ok
(01:42:42 IST) MegaByte: i can learn hacking here
(01:43:21 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, define hack first 
(01:43:26 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: What is hacking in your perception?
(01:43:37 IST) tuxplorer: teKnofreak: timing 
(01:43:42 IST) barkha:
(01:44:06 IST) MegaByte: gaining access to other computers ?
(01:44:29 IST) MegaByte: un-authorized access
(01:45:05 IST) MegaByte: i have shifted to linux because i want to learn hacking and want to be a hacker
(01:45:05 IST) teKnofreak: tuxplorer, great minds think alike
(01:45:20 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: Cracking
(01:45:21 IST) cydork: whoo like they show in movies, password cracker with GUI which cracks the password within seconds.
(01:45:31 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, you have improperly defined hacking, thus insulting 100s of Ethical Hackers, sorry..
(01:46:02 IST) teKnofreak: you may not make any further queries about hacking here, this is not the place you are looking for help
(01:47:44 IST) MegaByte: teKnofreak, i just want to know about it more
(01:47:49 IST) MegaByte: and i want to learn
(01:48:14 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, for us, hacking is not breaking into others’ computers..
(01:48:23 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: What do you want to learn? going in to other computers?
(01:48:41 IST) teKnofreak: if you can make some effort to learn what hacking really is, your presence will be appreciated
(01:48:45 IST) codeshepherd: guys.. MegaByte is a student.. don’t scare him..
(01:48:47 IST) MegaByte: i want to know how someone can get in others computer
(01:48:55 IST) teKnofreak: codeshepherd, we are teaching him..
(01:48:56 IST) tuxplorer: search for your hacking on the web, and download some softwares from warez sites and then install them on your doze box and dump your comp
(01:49:14 IST) MegaByte: we are not allowed to install software here
(01:49:21 IST) tuxplorer: teKnofreak: oh! ok.
(01:49:23 IST) teKnofreak: tuxplorer, s/hacking/cracking (you yourself dont make mistakes)
(01:49:59 IST) codeshepherd: MegaByte: hacking and cracking are different
(01:50:09 IST) MegaByte: codeshepherd, ok
(01:50:21 IST) tuxplorer: teKnofreak: no. I meant it.. only if you search for the word “hacking” on the web would you get those warez
(01:50:22 IST) MegaByte: codeshepherd, but whats different about them
(01:50:24 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, codeshepherd can become your mentor if you bribe him with enough booze, deal with him privately
(01:50:29 IST) MegaByte: sorry i am new to all this
(01:50:41 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: no prob..
(01:50:56 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
(01:51:05 IST) tuxplorer: read this.. you’ll get some idea of the difference
(01:51:17 IST) teKnofreak: tuxplorer, thanks i was looking for that link
(01:51:53 IST) MegaByte: tuxplorer, ok thank you
(01:53:17 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: Welcoem
(01:54:29 IST) teKnofreak: codeshepherd, tuxplorer was quick, you lost the opportunity
(01:56:16 IST) pradeepto: pfft!
(01:56:50 IST) ***pradeepto recommends Ankit Fadia’s books and courses on hacking.
(01:56:57 IST) pradeepto: MegaByte: ^
(01:57:22 IST) MegaByte: pradeepto, ok thank you pradeepto
(01:57:28 IST) teKnofreak: heh
(01:58:11 IST) pradeepto: MegaByte: no problemo, good luck in becoming a hacker.
(01:58:27 IST) teKnofreak: pradeepto, Hacker of the Cracking kind ?
(01:59:00 IST) MegaByte: this channel is good every one is so nice and helping me
(01:59:07 IST) teKnofreak: lol
(01:59:18 IST) teKnofreak: oh no, he needs to see my other side
(01:59:21 IST) kushal: pradeepto, you bad rockstart
(01:59:24 IST) kushal: pradeepto, you bad rockstar
(01:59:28 IST) pradeepto: huh?
(01:59:29 IST) teKnofreak: heh
(01:59:41 IST) kushal: pradeepto, pointing people to the bad things
(01:59:51 IST) tuxplorer: pradeepto: Ankit Fadia’s books are so outdated
(01:59:59 IST) jace: teKnofreak: http://gttr.sourceforge.net/
(02:00:06 IST) kushal: tuxplorer, they are of NO good
(02:00:21 IST) tuxplorer: kushal: ya. a hyped up guy
(02:00:25 IST) ***teKnofreak waits for the day when MegaByte succeeds in getting into pradeepto’s computer in search of something and comes out disappointed
(02:00:29 IST) teKnofreak: jace, will check it
(02:00:47 IST) jace: teKnofreak: i’m awaiting your timesheets this evening.
(02:00:52 IST) pradeepto: kushal: What? Just because you are not a 3ll3t h4×0r and could not complete those certifications, you bug me…
(02:02:16 IST) ***tuxplorer thinks that ankit fadia makes nmap look like rocket science
(02:02:22 IST) pradeepto: jace: Can you please threaten him and tell him to return my favoutie book - “How to become hacker in 24 hours.”
(02:02:32 IST) jace: pradeepto: by ankit fadia?
(02:02:33 IST) teKnofreak: heh
(02:02:51 IST) pradeepto: jace: the books is no more avaialbe on ebay or amazon… and this bugger doesnot return it.
(02:02:52 IST) kushal: pradeepto, I wrote one “How to become hacker in 24 seconds”
(02:03:32 IST) pradeepto: MegaByte: btw, meet g0pz he is the best hacker in this channel. He completed the 3 courses in 1 go.
(02:03:48 IST) pradeepto: MegaByte: and he got top marks even.
(02:03:49 IST) MegaByte: pradeepto, hacking courses ?
(02:03:54 IST) MegaByte: hi g0pz
(02:03:54 IST) pradeepto: yes
(02:04:15 IST) MegaByte: pradeepto, but i heard hackers dont talk much to other people
(02:04:18 IST) mehulved: MegaByte: you don’t know about them? everyone here does.
(02:04:19 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, he can convert routers to mere bricks
(02:04:29 IST) codeshepherd: some XSS link
(02:04:38 IST) codeshepherd: xss in iitm home page
(02:04:40 IST) pradeepto: 13:31 < pradeepto> Of course, there are certifications for hacker courses.
(02:04:41 IST) pradeepto: 13:31 < pradeepto> 3 levels even
(02:04:41 IST) pradeepto: 13:32 < pradeepto> Level 1 - Beginner Hacker.
(02:04:41 IST) pradeepto: 13:32 < pradeepto> Level 2 - Expert Hacker
(02:04:41 IST) pradeepto: 13:32 < pradeepto> Level 3 - 3L33t Hacker a.k.a Master Jedi
(02:04:45 IST) ***teKnofreak smacks “codeshepherd, the spammer”
(02:04:46 IST) pradeepto: MegaByte: ^
(02:04:57 IST) pradeepto: kushal: KArm
(02:05:13 IST) codeshepherd: anyone from IIT here ?
(02:05:40 IST) codeshepherd: teKnofreak , I did not spam 
(02:05:54 IST) codeshepherd: teKnofreak ^0
(02:06:10 IST) pradeepto: MegaByte: try and see, g0pz generally talks to people.
(02:06:19 IST) teKnofreak: codeshepherd, you did, anything beyond 3 lines of text on the screen is spam
(02:06:36 IST) ***pradeepto is away - hacking
(02:06:40 IST) codeshepherd: I pasted one line .. did you not see.. there was no line break
(02:06:41 IST) tuxplorer: teKnofreak: it was exactly 3 lines and not beyong PJ
(02:06:43 IST) codeshepherd: teKnofreak^
(02:07:12 IST) kushal: MegaByte, pradeepto is hacking Vista
(02:07:13 IST) teKnofreak: codeshepherd, it took more then 3 lines in my screen, so i consider it to be spam
(02:07:39 IST) codeshepherd: teKnofreak, help yourself.. but a big monitor
(02:07:40 IST) MegaByte: i know a senior of mine who can get any users password
(02:07:43 IST) MegaByte: on local intranet
(02:07:45 IST) tuxplorer: pradeepto: works for M$ ?
(02:08:04 IST) MegaByte: when i asked him how he do it he refused to tell me
(02:08:09 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: I know a senior who can get Bill Gates bank account access..
(02:08:23 IST) MegaByte: in my college every one is scared of him
(02:08:30 IST) codeshepherd: tuxplorer, I’m not your senior
(02:08:33 IST) MegaByte: because he can get anyones computer password
(02:08:56 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: please please don’t provoke me :-X
(02:08:59 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, i lost mine, can he get me mine ?
(02:09:14 IST) MegaByte: i dont know
(02:09:22 IST) MegaByte: i dont talk to him
(02:09:24 IST) teKnofreak: i will pay him 3 bottles of booze
(02:09:42 IST) kushal: MegaByte, pradeepto is the lead developer of Vista
(02:09:44 IST) ***teKnofreak installs karm
(02:09:45 IST) MegaByte: he said to me that linux is not good and i should use windows
(02:09:53 IST) pradeepto: teKnofreak: cool
(02:10:03 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, you see blue color in Windows, its pradeepto’s idea
(02:10:05 IST) MegaByte: but i have checked on internet and i have found that linux is very secure
(02:10:47 IST) teKnofreak: rofl
(02:12:01 IST) pradeepto: jace: good idea, really.
(02:12:42 IST) MegaByte: all of you are working ? or some students are here as well
(02:13:05 IST) codeshepherd: MegaByte: I’m a student
(02:13:11 IST) tuxplorer: codeshepherd:
(02:13:15 IST) MegaByte: codeshepherd, CS ?
(02:13:21 IST) MegaByte: codeshepherd, which year ?
(02:13:50 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: codeshepherd is studyin in 6th yr of his BTech
(02:13:50 IST) codeshepherd: no.. I’m attending 9th class in DAV
(02:14:24 IST) MegaByte: but there no course for 6 years he may be doing his Mtech then
(02:14:35 IST) kushal: MegaByte, there are many
(02:14:45 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: B.Tech CS with honours in Hacking is a 6 yrs course
(02:14:48 IST) pradeepto: jace: just that you know, KArm has idle detection capability…
(02:14:57 IST) pradeepto: jace: make sure your slaves have turned it on.
(02:15:00 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: haven’t you heard of it?
(02:15:05 IST) MegaByte: tuxplorer, ok i didnt know that because there is no such course in our college
(02:15:28 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: Its there in IITs and many other state univs too
(02:15:41 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: codeshepherd studies in NUS
(02:15:47 IST) MegaByte: tuxplorer, oh IIT i wasnt able to qualify for
(02:15:47 IST) jace: pradeepto: good idea. thanks.
(02:15:52 IST) jace: slaves, turn it on.
(02:16:13 IST) kushal: jace, pradeepto By default it is on
(02:22:30 IST) kushal: MegaByte, you are from ?
(02:22:37 IST) MegaByte: kushal, noida
(02:22:44 IST) kushal: ok
(02:24:08 IST) MegaByte: i want to learn hacking so that i can get the password of my seniors computer
(02:24:16 IST) MegaByte: he scare people everyday
(02:24:22 IST) codeshepherd: noidea != noida
(02:24:30 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: you are back to step 1
(02:24:46 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, stop using the work hacking for what you mean, its cracking
(02:24:52 IST) f3ew: MegaByte, I suggest you get REASON
(02:25:27 IST) codeshepherd: people from noida have noidea
(02:26:09 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: take this and go to some other channel http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/s-crack/
(02:26:47 IST) MegaByte: why to some other channel ?
(02:27:56 IST) tuxplorer: so that the administrators of this channel don’t ban you forever, so that incase you have some genuine doubt later, you can come back
(02:28:16 IST) MegaByte: but why they will ban me ?
(02:28:36 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: keep asking such questions and see if they ban you or not
(02:29:01 IST) MegaByte: tuxplorer, do you mean its not allowed to ask for help in hacking ?
(02:29:25 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: Not in cracking.. you won’t get any help for cracking here
(02:29:35 IST) codeshepherd: tuxplorer stop feeding him
(02:29:40 IST) MegaByte: ok
(02:30:02 IST) MegaByte: please dont ban me i am new to this
(02:30:13 IST) barkha: Ajinomoto
(02:30:17 IST) kushal: barkha,
(02:30:19 IST) kushal: Ajinomoto,
(02:30:26 IST) tuxplorer: MegaByte: if you pay irc.freenode.net $5 every month they won’t ban you
(02:30:31 IST) kushal: MegaByte, http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html
(02:30:44 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, breaking into other’s computers, stealing their passwords and other data is unethical and we in this channel do not entertain such behaviour
(02:30:47 IST) tuxplorer: kushal: we gave him that already.. he doesn’t seem to read that
(02:30:55 IST) MegaByte: ok
(02:31:01 IST) kushal: tuxplorer, oh
(02:31:26 IST) MegaByte: teKnofreak, sorry i didnt know that
(02:31:35 IST) Ajinomoto: barkha:
(02:31:36 IST) barkha: kushal
(02:31:37 IST) Ajinomoto: kushal:
(02:31:39 IST) teKnofreak: MegaByte, so if you are found doing so, or asking our help in doing so, you will be kicked out of here and can never ever come back
(02:31:53 IST) teKnofreak: Ajinomoto, you dirty dragon
(02:31:56 IST) jace is now known as MonoSodiumGlutam
(02:32:04 IST) Ajinomoto: teKnofreak: me, dirty? I am a noble Dragon
(02:32:07 IST) Ajinomoto:
(02:32:09 IST) codeshepherd: MegaByte: please join #debian-in and ask all your questions to cyberact
(02:32:12 IST) Ajinomoto: hey buddy MonoSodiumGlutam
(02:32:20 IST) MonoSodiumGlutam: hey Ajinomoto
(02:32:22 IST) teKnofreak: Ajinomoto, not any more, you got polluted with Ajinomoto
(02:32:26 IST) Ajinomoto:
(02:32:47 IST) MegaByte: codeshepherd, is he your friend ?
(02:33:19 IST) teKnofreak: codeshepherd, i thought you to be a Fedora fan-boy :-/
(02:33:21 IST) codeshepherd: he is my tutor.. MegaByte
(02:33:36 IST) MonoSodiumGlutam: teKnofreak: please check out Marginalia javascript annotation.
(02:33:40 IST) codeshepherd: teKnofreak you must also join #debian-in
(02:34:11 IST) teKnofreak: MonoSodiumGlutam, doing..
(02:34:14 IST) ***Ajinomoto directs all would be crackers to #ilug-cal. I’m sure they’ll get a good reception there.
(02:34:21 IST) MonoSodiumGlutam is now known as jace
(02:34:23 IST) Ajinomoto: the ilug-cal page was cracked recently
(02:35:14 IST) mishti: barkha,
(02:35:46 IST) barkha: hey mishti
(02:36:03 IST) mishti: barkha, got 5 minutes?
(02:36:22 IST) kushal: Ajinomoto, dgplug’s wiki was cracked and all records deleted
(02:36:26 IST) barkha: mishti: sure
(02:36:33 IST) codeshepherd: I should stop ircing and get some work done
(02:36:56 IST) teKnofreak: codeshepherd, at last you realized
(02:37:05 IST) Ajinomoto: kushal: was it because the ‘delete’ button was left active? so a bot could create an account and go around clicking on the delete links.
(02:37:35 IST) kushal: Ajinomoto, no account creation option was there, and all tables were empty
(02:37:44 IST) MegaByte: codeshepherd, i will join it and try to learn it from that guy
(02:37:47 IST) jace: teKnofreak: you should too
(02:37:55 IST) MegaByte: right now to go for my class
(02:37:59 IST) MegaByte: thank you all for the help
(02:38:06 IST) MegaByte: i will come back in the evening now
(02:38:08 IST) MegaByte: bye all
(02:38:09 IST) Ajinomoto: it happened to a *major* site a few months back. Google Bot merrily *visited* all links including the ‘delete’ links
(02:38:16 IST) MegaByte left the room (quit: “…….?”).
This guy came to the Channel once again in the evening and talked rubbish
(05:08:56 IST) MegaByte: hello all again
(05:09:04 IST) MegaByte: i need to do a project for my sem
(05:09:15 IST) MegaByte: i want to do something in open source
(05:09:20 IST) MegaByte: can any one suggest me something ?
(05:09:40 IST) barkha: MegaByte: what are you good at?
(05:10:22 IST) MegaByte: barkha, hi
(05:10:29 IST) MegaByte: barkha, i am learning C these days
(05:10:34 IST) MegaByte: and just started with linux
(05:11:26 IST) barkha: MegaByte: what sem project?
(05:12:06 IST) MegaByte: 2nd sem
(05:15:54 IST) barkha: hmm
(05:21:31 IST) MegaByte: i have time till dec
(05:24:39 IST) chanakya: MegaByte: Which college are you from ?
(05:25:36 IST) MegaByte: chanakya, i am in noida
(05:26:31 IST) MegaByte: i am doing engg from UPTECH
(05:26:36 IST) chanakya: MegaByte: Which college ?
(05:27:51 IST) MegaByte: dronacharya college of engineering
(05:29:19 IST) MegaByte: chanakya, do you know about it
(05:30:09 IST) chanakya: MegaByte: Yep , i do
(05:30:22 IST) MegaByte: ok
(05:30:39 IST) chanakya: MegaByte: What is the level f participation of LInux in your college ?
(05:31:03 IST) MegaByte: i am new to linux
(05:31:18 IST) MegaByte: i dont know much about it and we just have few people using it
(05:31:36 IST) MegaByte: but i want to learn more
(05:32:21 IST) chanakya: MegaByte: Dronacharya is a new college right
(05:32:43 IST) chanakya: MegaByte: Give me your phone number
(05:33:09 IST) MegaByte: phone number for ?
(05:33:57 IST) pradeepto: He wants to teach you hacking, of course, what else?
(05:34:10 IST) MegaByte: my father told me not to give your phone number to strangers
(05:35:43 IST) MegaByte: chanakya, also i dont have a cell phone
(05:35:52 IST) MegaByte: chanakya, cant afford it
(05:39:12 IST) MegaByte: ok have to go for now
(05:39:14 IST) MegaByte: bye all
(05:39:21 IST) MegaByte left the room (quit: “…….?”).
